tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068162.post7019335453175437896..comments2023-06-27T04:08:01.079-07:00Comments on ByJane: Kids: Love Them, But Sometimes Leave ThemByJanehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10540902996183063666noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068162.post-83297707861629052172008-02-01T11:07:00.000-08:002008-02-01T11:07:00.000-08:00velma: Yes, the idea that people are not permitte...velma: Yes, the idea that people are not permitted to evince some distaste for a child's presence smacks of totalitarianism. Positing that children are a beleaguered minority requiring special protection makes a mockery of civil rights laws. The tone of the whole debate over at HBM, which continues in a second post, is unfortunate, to say the least. <BR/><BR/>denise: the developmental inadequacy is exactly right. But save considering whether their kid hits a milestone, that doesn't seem to be a consideration here.ByJanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10540902996183063666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068162.post-17903757539367327462008-02-01T04:38:00.000-08:002008-02-01T04:38:00.000-08:00There is a time and a place for everything. Every ...There is a time and a place for everything. Every person, regardless of their position on families, mothering, feminisn, parenting needs to consider whether the particular venue is appropriate for children. I have seen children up at all hours of the night at movies, restaurants, etc. What the hell are they doing up? I have seen children screaming through the mall as their parents spend the day there. Developmentally there are limits to what any child can tolerate. That should be the first thought one has before a child is brought anywhere-Denisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15127250126440575740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23068162.post-23059389744120207692008-02-01T04:33:00.000-08:002008-02-01T04:33:00.000-08:00I've been following the topic over at HBM, too, an...I've been following the topic over at HBM, too, and the thing that gets me is how much of the ill will towards children is <I>percieved</I>, not actual incidents. I'm a mom of small kids, and I've spent the last few years NOT taking my son places because his behavioral issues made it too damn disruptive. <BR/><BR/>Do I think kids should be allowed into restaurants and theaters and such, even the nice places? Yes, because I've seen children at such places behave wonderfully. Would I take MY kids to those places before now? Nope, because one of them could not understand the rules yet.<BR/><BR/>Basic common sense, right? Sure, amny many people think the sun shines out of their kid's bottom and may not control the kids appropriately in the public spere, but I can even live with that. <BR/><BR/>It's the premise that people are wrong to behave in a negative way toward children that bothers me about that discussion.Velmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06425566563311066790noreply@blogger.com